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Old Oct 08, 2007, 11:18 PM // 23:18   #1
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Hi,

I have the strong feeling there is a change in the guild wars community going on. More and more people are quiting the game due to the fact there is less things which are worth doing nowdays which have good rewards.

In my dutch guild we have seen a decrease of 150 to now 80 players. More casual players then dedicated players. 150, because we have 2 guilds.

Therefor i was wondering if more guilds experience the retirement of players and having a (large) decrease in guild activity.

Maybe the side operators can start some polls to give some insight in this matter.

An example of a poll could be:
1. Playing with more fun nowdays
2. Missing the good old (profitable) days, thinking of quiting
3. Nothing changed

Another poll could be:
1. Decrease in guild members due to people quiting
2. No in- or decrease of players in the guild
3. Increase of players in the guild

Let the community speak!
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Old Oct 08, 2007, 11:31 PM // 23:31   #2
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well my guild has gone down from about 80 active members to 25 inactives within the course of 3-4 months

as for me, i log in maybe once a week, try to help out guildies, as there is nothing else to do.

most of my guild went to silkroad, WoW, back to the real life, ect
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Old Oct 08, 2007, 11:38 PM // 23:38   #3
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I can tell you my guild used to have about 450members over 5 guilds of the same name. Now we have about 150-200 members over 3 guilds. We delete people who have been inactive for more than 60days. We don’t get too many leavers. Read into that what you will but I think it has to do dodgy amateur neglectarino behaviour of Anet to its community over the past 6months.
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Old Oct 08, 2007, 11:40 PM // 23:40   #4
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That's why i miss such thing as a poll in which we can stand up and give some statistic information from out of the community. Something for which Guru could really help.

Yes we keep a 30 days inactivity or someone should have mentioned his absence on the forum
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Old Oct 08, 2007, 11:40 PM // 23:40   #5
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Been in three past guilds, all died due to inactivity. Also had to remake my friend's list twice, due to inactivity (all but 3 people are offline more than a month these days).
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Old Oct 08, 2007, 11:42 PM // 23:42   #6
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oddly enough our guild/ alliance is at an all time high.
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Old Oct 08, 2007, 11:42 PM // 23:42   #7
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The guild I'm in just decided to enlarge and do stuff together as a group. As such We have gone from a dozen members to just under fifty, most of which have just started playing the game. My point being, stories from people about their guilds are a poor indication as to the number of players in the game. Posts like this spring up every so often, they mean nothing. The numbers are gonna drop off now that we know GW:EN is the final part of Guild Wars. We don't need "statistics" from people on a forum to tell us that, only common sence. Check back when GW2 comes out.
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Old Oct 08, 2007, 11:45 PM // 23:45   #8
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I used to be a guild hopper till I found one I liked, I stayed there for a year, then all the cool people started playing less and all the ones who were nerds and had no life started playing more so I got all my cool friends and told the others to leave, they left but took a lot with them so in the end my guild died.

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Old Oct 09, 2007, 12:00 AM // 00:00   #9
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Originally Posted by warren_kn
My point being, stories from people about their guilds are a poor indication as to the number of players in the game.
I agree...still wondering what does numbers are.

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Posts like this spring up every so often, they mean nothing.
I would really like to know where 'such' a post is?

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Originally Posted by warren_kn
The numbers are gonna drop off now that we know GW:EN is the final part of Guild Wars. We don't need "statistics" from people on a forum to tell us that, only common sence.
Yes that's logically. But why don't you let the people who have these quetions have their chance of having an answer on this way without condemning them or the question. you speak of we, there is another group who also speaks of "we". Some want reason (you), some people wants to find answer this way...respect...
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Old Oct 09, 2007, 12:18 AM // 00:18   #10
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Not noticed it as much recently but about 8 months ago people were quitting everywhere, the main reason i can think for people not playing is that there isnt any long term goals in GW apart from a the odd grind title.
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Old Oct 09, 2007, 12:21 AM // 00:21   #11
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Well, I think the number of players might be decreasing. We see a lot of newer players going inactive in our guild. But our guild is far from dead.

"the fact there is less things which are worth doing nowdays which have good rewards" said didis.

Well, is this really true? I have not run into anybody who said they were leaving because they were broke. But on the other hand, I have heard grumbles about spending an hour and a half in a dungeon, getting nothing at the end nor from chests. Average explorable loot from GW:EN seems less than that from Nightfall, but certainly more than that from Factions.
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Old Oct 09, 2007, 12:48 AM // 00:48   #12
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Staying here for the community and for friends in game.

But, with a 40K MMO on the horizon... we'll see.
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Old Oct 09, 2007, 12:53 AM // 00:53   #13
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It's probably a natural downturn in players who have beat GW:EN...got a little bored and went to play some of the recently released games or another mmo. Guild Wars is different from most mmo's in that there's nothing stopping them from returning. With other mmo's they have to decide whether or not to pay that monthly fee. Nothing like that stopping them from playing Guild Wars again.

I've done this several times...Guild Wars is like any game you buy that doesn't have a monthly fee...so you can set it down and come back when you feel like it.

Sure there are probably a few leaving for good...but I bet the majority are just taking a break until either GW2 or when new stuff is introduced to Guild Wars. Remember we still have the mission pack in November...and Hard Mode for GW:EN. I also doubt those will be the only additions to the game between now and GW2...
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Old Oct 09, 2007, 12:55 AM // 00:55   #14
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My guild is going quite well right now and my alliance is also still very active. Things seem fine on my end...
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Old Oct 09, 2007, 12:59 AM // 00:59   #15
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The number of players in any game are highest when it is first released or when some large change/event takes place.

These numbers tend to fall after the game has been established for a few years and the content is no longer new.

Those that played the orriginal Prophicies over and over again before Factions was released are likely still playing. Many people quite before factions came out just becasue they beat the PvE storyline and did not like PvP so they felt there was nothing to do. Some came back with the release of Factions but I would guess over all we recieved new players with Factions and Nightfall.

Now that we know no knew content is coming for GW once you complete GW:EN you have 3 choices. PvP, titles or redue everything with a new class or guildies. Since most have already been through 3 chapters with multiple chars not many chose to take more than 1-2 into GW:EN.
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Old Oct 09, 2007, 02:32 AM // 02:32   #16
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My friend list is rather dead nowadays.. I used to see everybody on it at least three time a week.. now I only see two of them maybe once a week. So ya, the more experienced players are leaving.. some of them anyway. There just isn't anything to do now.
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Old Oct 09, 2007, 03:18 AM // 03:18   #17
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Personally I think it will be good if players play less or take a big break before GW2. The last thing GW2 needs is a large number of jaded players from GW who've spent 2 years title grinding, bitching and moaning in GW2 from day 1.
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Old Oct 09, 2007, 05:37 AM // 05:37   #18
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My guild went from 25 to 3 members within a month of Factions being released, they have pretty much all defected to WoW, but there are still three of us keeping the faith.
Also as mentioned earlier my freinds list is decimated i hardly see any one on it playing now.
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Old Oct 09, 2007, 06:57 AM // 06:57   #19
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40k MMO? Never heard a scratch of that.

Warhammer FANTASY MMO yes, now that I'm looking forward too (we'll see how much subscription costs...)

As for GW. It's extremely boring lately and has been since three months after factions IMO.

Only log in to it now to talk to friends who I dont have on IM. Might give Tabula Rasa a go...

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Old Oct 09, 2007, 07:07 AM // 07:07   #20
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Hm, our guild was vandalised yet again and continues on now with less members and less faction than we used to have. Some real-life issues may be involved as well. But as relatively new player (1 year) there is still a lot to do for me, like the high-end area's.
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